the whites of their ey in washington. right? i mean, you're waiting to see what happens with this fiscal cliff? >> i am. i tell you, i think that the christmas gift people are getting right now is to sell above 13,000. we were surprised we're not getting a deal. i'm surprised the market's as firm as it is and it is very easy to overthink this. well, must be firm. the bulls are strong. hey, we go higher. i think that's not the read at all. i think the initial reaction we got when they sent the house of representatives home on thursday night is what we're going to see when they don't get a deal done to the end of the year. i think there is no way. >> you think the market has it wrong here by being this high. >> i do. i think ultimately we're being tropical depression up by the 90 billion a month in fed liquidity but i think that comes home to roost probably as we get closer to the end of the year. the only way we have a shot to get a deal at the end of the year or maybe even early in january is if we have market pressure. right now the market is supplying no pressure to these politicians.